Wednesday, February 16, 2011

PERIOD 7 - AFTER THE FIRST

After The First is a parable - a story that has a moral or teaches a lesson. To figure out the moral of the film, first ask yourself what lesson Steve's father and mother wanted him to learn? Second, what do you think Steve actually learned? Then decide what the film taught you.
Mr. Gallagher

36 comments:

Megan Sullivan said...

I think that Steve’s interest and his parents conflicted. I think that both his mom and dad wanted him to do two separate things. I think that his mom was right about Steve not being ready to go hunting and this was clearly depicted after Steve shot the rabbit. I feel like the dad had good intentions in wanting to take his son hunting because that’s what he did with his dad and he wanted to pass that tradition on with his son. I feel like Steve felt trapped, meaning he didn’t want to kill the rabbit but he didn’t want to disappoint his dad at the same time. From this movie I definitely learned that no matter what people think even your own parents that you shouldn’t do something because they want you to. You should be able to take action when you’re ready and you shouldn’t feel pressured to do anything.

efaherty said...

I agree with Meg on the fact that I think Steve's interests were in direct conflict with his parents' interests. I also concur that his mother and father disagreed on the hunting experience. The mother felt that Steve was still much too young, innnocent, and naive to be hunting and the father felt that it was rite of passage that Steve was ready to experience.

efaherty said...

I think Steve's father wanted him to learn about the "circle of life" as he referred to killing the rabbit in the film. I also think that he wanted to create a special bonding experience with his son and teach him how to respect firearms and to be able to both protect and provide for himself. I think that the mother wanted Steve to take from the experience that guns can also be dangerous. In my opinion, I believe that Steve learned that killing isn't easy even if it is a rabbit that you're hunting. Also, I think he learned that life is valuable and unfair after seeing the rabbits be killed. This film taught me to think about my actions before I actually commit them and to base my decisions upon what i believe is right and not what anyone else believes.

Stephen Geller said...

In the film, it was clear that Steve's parents had different views over the conflict. Steve's mom clearly wasn't supportive of Steve going hunting, but Steve's father was all for it. I think by the end of the film, Steve realized his true feelings were against hunting. At first he was really excited to go with his dad, but after he killed his first rabbit, he was very disturbed and sad. It was evident that he was not one who would enjoy hunting or killing any animal. At this point in the film, we could see that Steve and his father grew very distant from each other. I learned from this film that it is important to go with your own gut feeling in life. Every decision a person makes in life should be what they want, not what anyone else wants. It's ok to listen to others opinions, but when it comes to making a decision, no one else should make it but the person themself.

Stephen Geller said...

I agree with Megan's comment. I definitely believe that people shouldn't feel pressured to do anything they don't want to do, even if some one like your parent tells you to do something. It's important for people to make decisions in life based on what they want and what they think is best for them, not for anyone else.

Megan Sullivan said...

I agree with Stephen in that it's ok to listen to other peoples opinions and take what they say into consideration but it comes down to yourself to make a decision.

Jake Phillips said...

Steves mother and father wanted him to learn about guns and hunting. Steve learned that He doesn't and shouldn't agree with everything his father believes. The film taught me that the kid was not ready for the rite of passage.

Jake Phillips said...

Emily brough up a great moral from the story, which is, "base my decisions upon what i believe is right and not what anyone else believes." Well said.

Amanda Hutchinson said...

I think that Steve's father wanted him to learn the tradition of hunting that had been in their family for years, and I think that Steve's mom wanted him to learn more about his father so they could create a bond. I think Steve learned that everything isnt what it seems and that people have different thoughts and opinions on certain things. I think Steve always assumed his mother and father were right about everything but he later learned that this was not true and that he didn't like hunting despite what his dad said. The film taught me that even when you trust someone and respect their opinions you may not like the same things as them and you may not agree with them all of the time, but that's okay. I like what Stephen mentioned when he said that it is okay for someone to listen to someone else but in the end the decision is their own decision. I believe that this is true as well.

Kevin Ruhl said...

Steves parents disagreed about whether or not he was old and mature enough to go hunting. Steves mother was against it and his father believed that he was ready. By the end of the film it was clear that Steve was not ready to go hunting for his first time, he was clearly upset after he killed the rabbit.

Matt Rouleau said...

IN the flim After the First the mother knew that steve was not ready for hunting. The Dad wanted to teach his son how to hunt like having father and son bond. I think that steve has learned that he really does not like hunting. I agree with Megan about how his dad was making him feel traped and saying that the first time it going to be hard to hunt and kill something but when you keep on doing you wont feel anything.

Kevin Ruhl said...

I agree with Amanda in that you cant be sure something is for you until you try it. Even if your best friend, who is just like you, loves hunting doesn't mean that its for you. This film taught me to try things for myself despite what other peoples opinions are.

Amanda said...

I believe that the film was meant to teach us that its okay to value life and your own values more than impressing or pleasing someone else. I believe the only reason that Steve shot the bunny was because his father liked hunting and wanted Steve to like it too. Steve's father just wanted to bond with Steve, but he didn't have to make him kill an animal to do it.

Amanda Borglund said...

I agree with Megan that Steve's dad had good intentions to bring Steve hunting, because he believed that because he liked hunting, that his son would like it too.

Rachel Bridge said...

The lessons that Steve’s mother wanted to impart on him differed from the lessons that his father wanted to impart on him. Steve’s mother did not want to expose him to the violent nature of hunting. She hoped that Steve’s values would predicate upon compassion, empathy, and the idea that all life is sacred. Steve’s father felt that this hunting trip would teach Steve about the responsibility that comes with power and the brutality that can sometimes be the reality of life. Steve’s father viewed this trip as a rite of passage and a meaningful tradition that he could share with his son. I think from this experience, Steve learned the importance of basing his decisions on his own thoughts and feelings and that you never know how something will feel until you have experienced it yourself. From this film I learned that I should always be the one dictating my actions and thoughts.

Rachel Bridge said...

I think that Stephen raises a good point in that considering others’ opinions is important when it comes to making decisions, but the decision should ultimately come from you and your beliefs.

Meg Burke said...

I think that Steve's mom and dad both had very different interests for Steve. His mom wanted Steve to stay young, innocent, and "her little boy" and was aware that Steve wasn't ready to take up hunting and kill. Steve's dad on the other hand wanted to pass on the family tradition of father and son hunting together as men. I feel that Steve felt a lot of pressure from his dad and although he didn't want to kill the rabbit he did want the approval from his dad. From the movie I learned that it is better to stick by your beliefs and make your own decision rather than basing your decisions on other peoples.

Meg Burke said...

I liked Amanda Hutchinson's point that you can trust and respect someones opinions but that doesn't mean your opinions have to be the same.

Emily Hite said...

Steve's father mainly wanted to share an experience with his son that could potentially bring them closer together. At the same time, he wanted his son to see that the world isn't an innocent place and humans can be cruel, but to not let that change your whole view of living. Steve's mother wanted to protect her son from that. She didn't feel as if he was ready to be shown that part of the world. I learned about the power of standing up for your beliefs when you know that you could be seriously affected. Steve didn't say know to his father, even though in his eyes shooting the first rabbit wasn't right. He wanted to do what his father thought was right. Sometimes we need to build up that courage to say no to situations if we know they don't go with what we value.

Emily Hite said...

Steve's father mainly wanted to share an experience with his son that could potentially bring them closer together. At the same time, he wanted his son to see that the world isn't an innocent place and humans can be cruel, but to not let that change your whole view of living. Steve's mother wanted to protect her son from that. She didn't feel as if he was ready to be shown that part of the world. I learned about the power of standing up for your beliefs when you know that you could be seriously affected. Steve didn't say know to his father, even though in his eyes shooting the first rabbit wasn't right. He wanted to do what his father thought was right. Sometimes we need to build up that courage to say no to situations if we know they don't go with what we value.

Emily Hite said...

I really liked Rachel's comment about how you should make decisions with other people's beliefs in mind, but they certainly should come from what you feel works best for you. Steve hadn't felt right about shooting and knew it after it happened. He had to learn himself firsthand that when he knows something isn't right for him, he shouldn't go along with it and he shouldn't worry about what other's will think.

Brenda Komari said...

I was absent.

Unknown said...

I believe that steve's parents were trying to teach him two opposing lessons. Steve's father was putting Steve through a rite of passage, one that is not exactly unique to steve's family alone. There are many tribes in the world that value the first hunt as a sign that a boy has become a man. However, Steve's mother doesn't really approve of the father's intentions, and voices her opinion in the kitchen scene. At first, when I stared watching the film, I kept anticipating that either the father or the son was going to be shot by the other. That's the reason I came up with for the mother's apprehension, but soon realized that she had sensed something in her son that made her wary of the hunting trip that Steve's father had planned. I agree with meg sullivan, in that Steve was very much trapped between following his cultural duties and doing what he believed to be morally right. I learned that my actions shouldn't be determined solely by others, and that I should speak up and voice my opinions when I feel that following the group goes against my moral values or alerts my instincts to danger. Who knows, someone may feel the same way I do, and we can both avoid an early demise.

Unknown said...

I agree with Emily faherty, in that the mother wanted to teach her son a respect for life and firearms, and that killing is not to be taken lightly. However, I believe that the mother would have much preferred if Steve didn't have to go on the hunting trip to learn these lessons. Steve learned to value life, while at the cost of his innocence.

Will Kenyon said...

I think the lesson Steve's mother and father wanted to teach him was one of tradition and rite of passage. For their family this involved hunting, an activity Steve's father though Steve was ready for. It was clear his parents had conflicting opinions on whether Steve was ready for this rite of passage because of the maturity hunting takes and the violence it entails. I think the ending of the film shows how it is important to make a decision and take action based on your own beliefs. Although you make receive pressures from others to do certain things it is best to act based on what you think is right .

Will Kenyon said...

I agree with Stephen's point about making decisions based on your gut feeling and your own morals. I think it is sometimes important and necessary to consult others when making a decision but ultimately it will be you who has to live with the outcome so it is important to act upon your own beliefs.

Lane Bennett said...

I think that Steve's father was excited to have a chance to bond with his son, and teach him what he knows about life. Steve's mother wanted to protect his innocence by keeping him from hunting. The message that the film is trying to send is clear; Steve hunting with his father represents the death of people by another person, and how it becomes easier to detatch yourself from another human being while doing so. In the beginning of the film, Steve's father even said to his wife that she looked as if they were "going to war".
I personally do not see the appeal of hunting. I used to live in the woods, and my brother's friend once shot a robin dead. Later that day, we found a nest nearby in a tree with the dead robin's babies. I didn't think about it at the time, but watching this film in class reminded me of that and made me think that human beings do the same thing to each other's families in a similar fashon.

James Seatter said...

I agree with Steve that the hunting trip rather than giving Steve and his father a way to bond and giving them something in common, actually made their relationship more distant.

James Seatter said...

Steve’s father wanted Steve to experience the right of passage and grow up. Steve’s mother felt that this right of passage was not appropriate at this time for Steve because he was still too young. Steve simply wanted to make his father proud of him and have something in common with his father so he went on the hunting trip. The only thing Steve learned on the hunting trip is that his value of life is more important to him than his father’s acceptance of him.

Kelsey Beron said...

I think that Steve’s father and mother differed in what they thought was right for their son. The father at a younger age than Steve went with his father to hunt and learn how to put food on the table and so he figured it was time that he does the same with his child. But his wife in my opinion had it right when she said time are now different and I think she had a better read on the fact that Steve just wasn’t ready for it. I think Steve was shocked and upset after he shot the rabbit and disappointed with the experience in all. At the start when he was shooting at the wood, he had fun and enjoyed it, but when it came time for a living, breathing target, it all became too much. So I don’t think Steve cam away from the experience with anything positive. The film didn’t teach me too much other than it reinstated the theme of to not judge someone before you know them. For instance at the start of the movie I felt that Steve was going to love it, but really that wasn’t the case at all.

Kelsey Beron said...

I agree with Emily’s thoughts that the father had good intentions when he was taking his son out to shoot the gun, but the result came to be something much different.

alex arsenis said...

I agree with sullie in the sense that Steve had different interests and a different morale agenda than his parents did which caused a difference in their identity

alex arsenis said...

I think that this was a very interesting story because it shows the different values and morales of Stevens family.

alex arsenis said...

I thought this story was very interesting because it shows the different values and morals between the members of Stevens family

Antony Macario said...

I think that the film After the First was a good film that helps us to understand the pressure that our parents can have over us. In the film when the dad takes Steve to hunt. Steve was happy that he was going to do it for the first time but when he see that kill animals it is not fun. He see the world different that it is why he didn’t wanted to shoot the rabbit and in that moment is when he see the his parents have control over him because he has to do everything that they tell him to do even know it is bad.

Antony Macario said...

I agree with Alex this film show us the values and morals of tdifferent families