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Wednesday, February 6, 2013
PERIOD 7 - LITTLE BOXES
Today you read the story "Little Boxes" in class. Please share your thoughts about the story and the class discussion that followed in a reflective post. Make at least one comment about another student's post.
46 comments:
Laryssa Guimaraes
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I do share Anthony's feeling. Nobody likes to have people tell you what you are or be so limited in options that you have to change who you are to fit the picture. Being from another country (Brasil) I have experienced some of the tings Anthony has. It's very rare that they will have the option "Latino" and when I ask whoever I'm filing out the sheet for they always tell me to check off "Hispanic" claiming that it's the same thing. I am not Hispanic and even though are cultures are similar the are not the same... like the language! I speak Portuguese not Spanish. Due to sharing the same frustrations as Anthony I do agree that to a certain extent the little boxes dose threaten my identity.
I agree with Laryssa. I think that there should either be more options when it comes to checking boxes or not options at all. When it comes to applying for college, it shouldn't matter whether the person is Hispanic, Latino, other etc. The college should not discriminate based on stereotypes because everyone is a person. When it comes to something applying for a job, there should be more options for race/culture because that job may be looking for a specific person. There should be more options or no boxes at all depending on the situation. People shouldn't be limited to a box.
I dont share the feeling that Anthony has because I am a white male although I can understand and respect his point because we have all heard lots of stereotypical jokes and or traits that are forced apon people if they are part of a certain group. I personally believe there shouldnt be any boxes. I agree with Erin, a person is a person. Judge them by who they are and not who they are associated with.
I agree with what Erin said about how colleges shouldn't discriminate based on stereotypes. I think that too many forms require you to say what race/culture you are and but I really don't think that they should ask you that.
The reading of the "Little Boxes" really establishes the essence of what it means to be an individual in society. I think that society sets standards for people based on race, culture, gender, etc because it does not accept individuality and the role that comes with it. I think it's sad to have to live in a world that does not accept a person for who they are, just because they appear different, or seem to have more than one background to them. Thus, I do believe that these boxes should be eliminated from certain things like applying to colleges, or certain jobs. I do not find them necessary enough to be on an application, because I believe qualifying for a job or even an education, should be of free entrance to everyone no matter what race or races they are. It makes them wonder if they hadn't checked off their certain race, would they then have gotten that job or education? It's all too stereotypical for me to understand, and I don't find them to be necessary in the world.
Going off of what Laryssa had said before, being classified as Hispanic, when in fact you are not hispanic is a bit upsetting, and frustrating. In conclusion, I do agree with what Anthony E. Wright is saying about how a person is forced into a category in which they don't feel that they truly belong in.
I personally have never shared the experience of not knowing what box to check off because I consider myself white. Although I am half Irish, I do not consider that my ethnicity because I don't practice Irish culture, besides having beef and cabbage for Saint Patrick's Day; however, I do see Wright's points of how you are being forced in a category that doesn't necessarily describe who you are. You are being demoralized of your culture and heritage.
I think that if forms do ask you what race/culture you are there shouldn't be any boxes you should just be able to write in which one you are. As a society, I think we tend to place people into groups and categories too much. This type of thinking threatens our individuality and causes us to focus of how we are different from other people instead of how we are similar to them.
I dont't share the feelings Anthony does because I dont face an internal conflict with my race. I do understand how that could be challanging though when it comes to figuring out where you "fit in", or how people make you think you should act.
Kissila makes I great point that I agree with, that society sets standards for people based on race. You aren't just checking off the boxes but associating yourself with characteristics, qualities, and how well of you are(money wise)which comes when checking of that box that says "BLACK," "WHITE," or "HISPANIC." These boxes should be eliminated and there shouldn't even be a place where you should write what race you are because it shouldn't even matter when applying for a job or school.
I do not share Anthony's feelings because I am a white Irish female and I guess I do really fit in with the norm. I have never had a problem with race or been judged because of what I look like. So far, I have always felt like I fit in, and I am fortunate and don't take anything for granted. But then again, Anthony learned an incredible life lesson about how nothing but his character defines him, and I wish i could experience an eye-opening lesson like he did. I agree with Anthony in that sweeping generalizations are made in society that define people by looks. I think that in order to work together in the world these boundaries need to be broken, and stereotypes only cause more problems. Every person should feel accepted and that they belong and have a purpose in the world, no matter who they are.
I agree with what James is saying. I think that there should be no boxes defining who you are, and a person should be accepted by what they say and how they act. I think he made a great statement when saying that people should be judged by who they are rather than who they are associated with.
I don't share the same feelings with Anthony because I personally have not had a situation like his, I consider myself to fit into the norm. I can understand though how he would feel about not fitting into the "little boxes" and feeling like people are trying to stereotype him into those categories.
I agree with Erin's point that people shouldn't be limited to a box. I think we shouldn't have those boxes and we should be able to describe who we are with the words we choose, and those boxes limit us.
I agree with Erin's point that people shouldn't be limited to a box. I think we shouldn't have those boxes and we should be able to describe who we are with the words we choose, and those boxes limit us.
I agree with what Anthony is saying about how the boxes close you in because they do not truly describe the type of person you are and it just pushes groups together because no one really bothers to care about the background of the people applying for different things where these boxes are necessary. I cannot say that I had felt this way before when I had to fill these boxes out, but after reading this I do see how it is very cold as to a person's heritage. I am white and have never really had an issue, but I am also very Italian and I consider that a very important part of my daily life and family traditions. I don't want to hide a very important part of my identity and I want to answer the question of why I have olive skin or why I always talk with my hands with "because I'm Italian", not just white. I agree with Erin and James because a lot of people of more issues with these boxes than I do and more people nowadays are not just one thing. It's more complicated than that and I believe that each person's heritage and identity deserves respect.
I think that the "little boxes" on applications and other forms that people fill out should be elliminated. Especially when it comes to college applications becuase it doesn't matter where a person comes from, all that matters is their character and who they are as a person. I can see how many people would be offended by the boxes that are on applications to choose from because often times there isn't a correct term for the person filling out the form. I think that as a society most people concentrate on fitting in and being placed into a group but think the world would be a little better if we weren't so concerned with things like that.
I think that the "little boxes" that are on applications should be elliminated. I don't think that were a person comes from should effect if they get into a college or get a job. Rather than looking at where the person is from, people should focus more on who the applicant is as a person based on their character.
I agree with Kissila, I think that society often tries to place people into catagories and stereotype people based on how they look, where they come from, or other superficial reasons. Becuase of this, I also think that the "little boxes" should be eliminated.
Anthony Wright brings up a good point in his story "Little Boxes", our society spends a great deal of time trying to classify people. While being able to classify yourself as "White", "Hispanic", "Asian", or "Black" may give you a sense of belonging it also makes others feel like they don't belong. I never really thought about the boxes causing people such internal conflict as I usually just check off the "White (Caucasian)" box. We live in a society in which we are brought up to believe that race/ ethnicity doesn't matter, so why then do we have to classify ourselves when applying for jobs, school, or even filling out surveys. If race and ethnicity truly don't matter than we should eliminate these questions and ratios of each race in a place of work shouldn't matter if someone is better suited for the school or the job they shouldn't be turned down in order to fulfill the ratio the company wants to keep.
I agree with Amanda in that we shouldn't be limited to just a box to check off, if the people reading these applications wanted to know so bad they should leave space for someone to explain their background and where they come from in reference to who they are.
The reading made me think how generalizations are important for the functioning of society but also how they can cause problems for some individuals. Like Tarrens said, generalizations are misleading and they aren't always fair, and not everyone fits into a certain category. Today there are so many different types of people that belong to different social calsses, religions, and parts of the world. And just because they could fit into one category doesn't mean that they can't also fit into another. I think this is important to keep in mind when we look at people and begin to make generalizations about them.
I agree with what everyone has said so far about how we shouldn't be required to fill out the boxes. Like we read these are generalizations and one box does not tell you everything about the person. Since the colleges seem interested in where we cam from and who we are, I agree and think that they should provide a space so that people who want to can fill out anything they'd like.
I think many people go through this same experience. Checking a box about ethnicity seems simple to most, but can be a challenge for others, like Anthony. There are many different backgrounds and it is not easy to check off this box if you do not belong to only one group. I also understand that it can challenge one’s identity. Knowing who you are does not always have to follow the general guidelines of these boxes; there are more to people than what are represented. I have never been in this situation and haven’t even thought about it until now. It is interesting to read that such a little thing as checking off a box has this big of an impact on individuals and can lead to the questioning of one’s identity.
I agree with Sarah Connors, I have never experienced something like that before that has been deep enough to have me question my identity. There are basic stereotypes and generalizations from society that are not always true. Everyone should fit in and not feel like they have to act or look a certain way just to be accepted by society. People are who they are for a reason and nobody should be placed in a category based on looks.
I actually can relate to this story quite well. My father is a white catholic with strong irish and english backgrounds while my mother is 100% Turkish and is a muslim. People would never think that I am half Turkish based on my white skin and my voice. I have no accent, while my mother does. I honestly have no clue what my religion is, because my parents never forced me to think a certain way. They always wanted my thoughts and religion to be open, which doesn't really help me in a way. When people learn that my mom is muslim, their ignorant minds immediately think of an "Arab" terrorist. This really irritates me. People need to learn how to get to know people on the inside, and not just judge them based on what the color of their skin or religion is.
I agree with everyone. We should not have to check little boxes. There should be a few lines after the question asked so you can explain to the fullest, and not have to pick one thing.
I think "Little Boxes" is about how a person's identity is more than what categories he/she fits into. In the story, Anthony describes how he was often confused with what boxes he had to check on forms. He explains his complicated cultural background but even if he could write all that on the form it still would not describe who he is, only who he appears to be. The important message of "Little Boxes" is that each human being is unique and we should never assume who they are based on a category they fit in
Like what most people have said, I agree that people should not have to check boxes to describe their race/ethnicity. However, I disagree that there should be some space to describe it yourself. I think that you should never have to bring up the issue of race/ethnicity on a form because it only increases racial stereotyping and categorizing.
I can't relate with Anthony or share his feelings but I can sympathize for him. I am sure there many people in America who can empathize with Anthony but I am not one of them. I think its a very unfortunate situation for him because nobody should feel as though they don't fit in with the "majority" of society. I believe that just because somebody is black, asian, indian, or whatever race they may be, that doesn't make them a "minority" ...when it comes to numbers and quantity, they are a minority because there are more white people than latino people and black people and asian people in USA, but physically they should not be looked down on by white people in America as a minority.
To me, “Little Boxes” shows the big picture of how unreasonable it is for us to have to place ourselves in one single group. Why should a person’s race/ethnicity coincide with their identity? For Anthony, he belonged to so many groups that he didn’t know which to choose. He placed himself in the “Hispanic” group because he identified with it the most by growing up in a Puerto Rican neighborhood. This proves that despite the other cultures he is a part of, he identifies with the one he feels most comfortable with. An analogy I’d like to make (that is unrelated to race), is to different groups in high school. If someone who did multiple activities were given a survey where they had to indicate one “group” they fit into the most, it would present a similar situation. For example, if the person has to identify as someone who does sports or is in the orchestra, choosing only one to identify with is hard, because doing so would be neglecting a certain aspect of their life. My main point is that checking off a little box to establish one’s identity in a single word is silly, and the difference of being placed in one group or another should not be indicated by that clean-cut action.
I most definitely agree with Greg that race and ethnicity should not be brought up on a form or survey because it increases stereotyping and categorizing. I also think it just makes people feel inadequate because they know most people around them are checking off the "white" box. Some may feel unique where as others may feel like it brings up the issue of stereotyping which Greg is correct about in my opinion
Greg, you bring up a really good point. I think they should do away with any options, because there is no need for race/ethnicity to be brought up; It only opens up more options for discrimination. Like I said before, each person has different parts to their identity, therefore they can’t be placed into a single box.
As many others have said, I don’t believe that one should have to check a box indicating their ethnicity. Along with this, many people have mentioned the idea that lines should be provided in order for people to describe their own ethnicity. This may be a better option, but depending on what the person is indicating this for, I feel they shouldn’t have to mention their ethnicity at all. This in itself only leads to more chance for discrimination. Why must a person’s ethnicity be known if we are all equal as people?
I actually really enjoyed reading this essay because it’s a topic that I have thought of before, but have never actually discussed. I had never realized how much of an issue these simple little boxes could be to a person. Along with this, I’ve never really understood the reasons for these boxes because I honestly feel like checking the word “white” doesn’t really tell anything about who I am. It rather places stereotypes on me that may not be valid at all. It is frustrating to me that this is such an issue, because no matter what ethnic background a person may hold, they face stereotypes all the time. I wonder if this issue will ever lessen, and if ethnic stereotypes will ever be invalid. It was overall interesting seeing this idea from a person with an entirely different ethnic background than me, as I could never understand his situation, I can sympathize with where he’s coming from.
I found the article very interesting because it brought up a point about society that I think is very important. Anthony had said that he is from a very diverse cultural background and that when he is filling out applications or forms, there is never really an opportunity to express who he truly is/where he comes from. The forms only give a few very general options to choose from, such as those involving the category of race. Some have to sette on an option that they are not comfortable with, in that it does not fit who they are. Because they don't give people the option to express themselves fully, I think this says something about society and how it groups people together off of one particular judgement, rather than knowing exactly who someone is. This very vague and general judgement can affect how people see someone and treat them s well. I think the "little boxes" are an example of the judgemental society that we live in today.
I agree with what Michayla said. I think it is very unreasonable for society to make someone define themselves with only one word or let alone have to choose from a limited list of options. People have branched out a lot more in that they come from different places and do diffrent things that wouldn't be classified with a single world. I really liked the analogy with the high school bcecause I think it fits perfectly to what this idea is all about. Students today aren't so black and white, in that they can be stereotyped into a specific clique. People have branched out and do different things, which would make it harder for one to describe themselves in high school with one word.
In Japan, where I am "normal" and ostensibly recognized as part of the vast majority, I didn't really face Wright's problem, much the way Caucasians tend not to in the States. Here, and even back in California, however, there was always the issue of who I was based upon the color of my skin, or the shape of my eyes; and few ever get my ethnicity correct on the first try ("Chinese? Vietnamese? Taiwanese? Malaysian?...Japanese?") Apparently, I'm also some ninja-mech-pilot-calculator-cyborg hybrid too. It can get rather frustrating when I tell people I do some of those things but it isn't representative of the people as a whole--even worse is when, even jokingly, some assumptions are made of some of my physical proportions (no need to elaborate further). I am not completely guiltless, however; while it is very easy to say "Oh, but you shouldn't categorize somebody" we all do that almost unconsciously every day. Whether it's by political party, or style of dress--"Libtards can go kill themselves" "Ha, look at that hipster faggot, listening to that music we 'probably haven't heard of'"--we do tend to generalize an awful lot. We don't have the time, or resources, or motivation to look further into the minute details of people; we don't have the means to go beyond the borders of our hectic life. "Identify thine competition to make them easier to eliminate" is part of the capitalist mantra so integrated within our societies, and quick recognition is key. Problem is, it's hard to stay human when operating in such a machine-like manner, and it becomes especially true the higher up you go (hence the idiom of selling the soul for riches). Quite honestly, balancing between the two is nigh impossible in the world we have created, where people become assets and faces of the company so the company can feed the people; the little boxes shouldn't be there in the first place, but the individual submits to the masses, and so forth. There is a sort of irony in which we want each other to be individuals but at the same time "fit in" and find a form of commonality between others--be individuals together, per se. We shouldn't be limited to the boxes of others...but we want some of the others to fit into our box that we place ourselves in. It's a confusing thing.
I'm ambivalent as to whether the "little boxes" should be eliminated (in partial disagreement with the majority view), since there are many who actively use that category as a badge of honor; the line between use and abuse is blurry at best. It would be my wish that such labels are no longer associated with the connotations some seem to think they have, especially when said connotation results in unnecessarily increased pressure on the person affected. Do we use the boxes to oppress others? Or do we use it as a foundation upon which are beliefs are built and maintained?
There are, after all, quite a few who say "As a man/woman/American/ect. I have a duty..." How one defines oneself according to their "boxes" is up to them--and we shouldn't make that choice for them, yes. But in the same vein, if one wants to use said boxes for themselves, then I say they should be free to.
I really liked this article, and I agree with Anthony Wright's position about little boxes. Like Anthony, I come from a very diverse background and do not like when I have to select white on a piece of paper, because I am not given all the options I need. I come from a Persian father and a Irish, Swedish, English, and Scottish mother. Further more, I have some family from Argentina. I am not given the chance to check all that apply, because each term is too vague. I also don't think it gives anybody the opportunity to share a complete story about ourselves; it merely categorizes us into groups. When talking in class, I disagreed with everything that Keith Leslie said. I agree with Miranda Sidman about the minority vs. majority topic.
I agree a lot with what Michayla had to say. I am involved with many different things both in and outside the highschool, that by choosing one e box, it limits me to what I can explain about myself. To further her point, many colleges look for a well-rounded student. This is in conflict with the little boxes, because it does not allow for great diversity, it in turn limits the student. However, we are presented with said little boxes when filling out applications.
I think that people should not have to check off little boxes to describe your race and ethnicity; because of this I myself do not check any “little boxes” on forms. I think it is completely wrong to stereotype people based on ethnicity. I think that our society is corrupt in the sense that if you belong to one race you can receive benefits for it. For example I don’t think just because you are Native American you should be able to go to some colleges for free, but I also don’t believe because you are black you should be stereotyped as dangerous. I myself am 100% Irish so unlike others I don’t think I can relate to the confusion about not knowing how to describe yourself in just a few little boxes on paper. Recently while applying for the SAT’s I had to summit a photo of myself that will be on my actual testing sheet. When I did this I was completely shocked. I get that you need some way of proving that you are actually who you say you are, but I think there are other ways of doing this. I think that, that can open so many more doors to stereotyping.
I completely agree with Greg little boxes should not define who you are as a person. They’re many more things that build up a person and that you should never assume anything just because of someone’s background. Everyone has a story and that’s why I think it is so ridiculous that little boxes even exist. Your race does not define you, your character does.
I have not experienced anything that the main character, Anthony, in the “Little Boxes” has experienced. However, I understand how that could make someone feel about checking off the little boxes. There are many stereotypes today here in America. Stereotyping is disrespectful, but it’s not like people are going to stop stereotyping certain groups of ethnicities. Just because other people say that it’s not okay for others to say something so disrespectful doesn’t mean that the stereotyping will not continue.
I agree with what Jamie had to say about “The Little Boxes”. I am also a white male who can respect what Anthony has to say. I may not agree with it because I am not often stereotyped but you have to respect what other have to say about certain topics.
46 comments:
I do share Anthony's feeling. Nobody likes to have people tell you what you are or be so limited in options that you have to change who you are to fit the picture. Being from another country (Brasil) I have experienced some of the tings Anthony has. It's very rare that they will have the option "Latino" and when I ask whoever I'm filing out the sheet for they always tell me to check off "Hispanic" claiming that it's the same thing. I am not Hispanic and even though are cultures are similar the are not the same... like the language! I speak Portuguese not Spanish. Due to sharing the same frustrations as Anthony I do agree that to a certain extent the little boxes dose threaten my identity.
I agree with Laryssa. I think that there should either be more options when it comes to checking boxes or not options at all. When it comes to applying for college, it shouldn't matter whether the person is Hispanic, Latino, other etc. The college should not discriminate based on stereotypes because everyone is a person. When it comes to something applying for a job, there should be more options for race/culture because that job may be looking for a specific person. There should be more options or no boxes at all depending on the situation. People shouldn't be limited to a box.
I dont share the feeling that Anthony has because I am a white male although I can understand and respect his point because we have all heard lots of stereotypical jokes and or traits that are forced apon people if they are part of a certain group. I personally believe there shouldnt be any boxes. I agree with Erin, a person is a person. Judge them by who they are and not who they are associated with.
I agree with what Erin said about how colleges shouldn't discriminate based on stereotypes. I think that too many forms require you to say what race/culture you are and but I really don't think that they should ask you that.
The reading of the "Little Boxes" really establishes the essence of what it means to be an individual in society. I think that society sets standards for people based on race, culture, gender, etc because it does not accept individuality and the role that comes with it. I think it's sad to have to live in a world that does not accept a person for who they are, just because they appear different, or seem to have more than one background to them. Thus, I do believe that these boxes should be eliminated from certain things like applying to colleges, or certain jobs. I do not find them necessary enough to be on an application, because I believe qualifying for a job or even an education, should be of free entrance to everyone no matter what race or races they are. It makes them wonder if they hadn't checked off their certain race, would they then have gotten that job or education? It's all too stereotypical for me to understand, and I don't find them to be necessary in the world.
Going off of what Laryssa had said before, being classified as Hispanic, when in fact you are not hispanic is a bit upsetting, and frustrating. In conclusion, I do agree with what Anthony E. Wright is saying about how a person is forced into a category in which they don't feel that they truly belong in.
I personally have never shared the experience of not knowing what box to check off because I consider myself white. Although I am half Irish, I do not consider that my ethnicity because I don't practice Irish culture, besides having beef and cabbage for Saint Patrick's Day; however, I do see Wright's points of how you are being forced in a category that doesn't necessarily describe who you are. You are being demoralized of your culture and heritage.
I think that if forms do ask you what race/culture you are there shouldn't be any boxes you should just be able to write in which one you are. As a society, I think we tend to place people into groups and categories too much. This type of thinking threatens our individuality and causes us to focus of how we are different from other people instead of how we are similar to them.
I dont't share the feelings Anthony does because I dont face an internal conflict with my race. I do understand how that could be challanging though when it comes to figuring out where you "fit in", or how people make you think you should act.
Kissila makes I great point that I agree with, that society sets standards for people based on race. You aren't just checking off the boxes but associating yourself with characteristics, qualities, and how well of you are(money wise)which comes when checking of that box that says "BLACK," "WHITE," or "HISPANIC." These boxes should be eliminated and there shouldn't even be a place where you should write what race you are because it shouldn't even matter when applying for a job or school.
I do not share Anthony's feelings because I am a white Irish female and I guess I do really fit in with the norm. I have never had a problem with race or been judged because of what I look like. So far, I have always felt like I fit in, and I am fortunate and don't take anything for granted. But then again, Anthony learned an incredible life lesson about how nothing but his character defines him, and I wish i could experience an eye-opening lesson like he did. I agree with Anthony in that sweeping generalizations are made in society that define people by looks. I think that in order to work together in the world these boundaries need to be broken, and stereotypes only cause more problems. Every person should feel accepted and that they belong and have a purpose in the world, no matter who they are.
I agree with what James is saying. I think that there should be no boxes defining who you are, and a person should be accepted by what they say and how they act. I think he made a great statement when saying that people should be judged by who they are rather than who they are associated with.
I don't share the same feelings with Anthony because I personally have not had a situation like his, I consider myself to fit into the norm. I can understand though how he would feel about not fitting into the "little boxes" and feeling like people are trying to stereotype him into those categories.
I agree with Erin's point that people shouldn't be limited to a box. I think we shouldn't have those boxes and we should be able to describe who we are with the words we choose, and those boxes limit us.
I agree with Erin's point that people shouldn't be limited to a box. I think we shouldn't have those boxes and we should be able to describe who we are with the words we choose, and those boxes limit us.
I agree with what Anthony is saying about how the boxes close you in because they do not truly describe the type of person you are and it just pushes groups together because no one really bothers to care about the background of the people applying for different things where these boxes are necessary. I cannot say that I had felt this way before when I had to fill these boxes out, but after reading this I do see how it is very cold as to a person's heritage. I am white and have never really had an issue, but I am also very Italian and I consider that a very important part of my daily life and family traditions. I don't want to hide a very important part of my identity and I want to answer the question of why I have olive skin or why I always talk with my hands with "because I'm Italian", not just white. I agree with Erin and James because a lot of people of more issues with these boxes than I do and more people nowadays are not just one thing. It's more complicated than that and I believe that each person's heritage and identity deserves respect.
I think that the "little boxes" on applications and other forms that people fill out should be elliminated. Especially when it comes to college applications becuase it doesn't matter where a person comes from, all that matters is their character and who they are as a person. I can see how many people would be offended by the boxes that are on applications to choose from because often times there isn't a correct term for the person filling out the form. I think that as a society most people concentrate on fitting in and being placed into a group but think the world would be a little better if we weren't so concerned with things like that.
I think that the "little boxes" that are on applications should be elliminated. I don't think that were a person comes from should effect if they get into a college or get a job. Rather than looking at where the person is from, people should focus more on who the applicant is as a person based on their character.
I agree with Kissila, I think that it's sad that our society
I agree with Kissila, I think that society often tries to place people into catagories and stereotype people based on how they look, where they come from, or other superficial reasons. Becuase of this, I also think that the "little boxes" should be eliminated.
Anthony Wright brings up a good point in his story "Little Boxes", our society spends a great deal of time trying to classify people. While being able to classify yourself as "White", "Hispanic", "Asian", or "Black" may give you a sense of belonging it also makes others feel like they don't belong. I never really thought about the boxes causing people such internal conflict as I usually just check off the "White (Caucasian)" box. We live in a society in which we are brought up to believe that race/ ethnicity doesn't matter, so why then do we have to classify ourselves when applying for jobs, school, or even filling out surveys. If race and ethnicity truly don't matter than we should eliminate these questions and ratios of each race in a place of work shouldn't matter if someone is better suited for the school or the job they shouldn't be turned down in order to fulfill the ratio the company wants to keep.
I agree with Amanda in that we shouldn't be limited to just a box to check off, if the people reading these applications wanted to know so bad they should leave space for someone to explain their background and where they come from in reference to who they are.
I agree with Kassandra Mangan, if we live in a society were race truly dose not matter then why are there the "little boxes" in the first place.
The reading made me think how generalizations are important for the functioning of society but also how they can cause problems for some individuals. Like Tarrens said, generalizations are misleading and they aren't always fair, and not everyone fits into a certain category. Today there are so many different types of people that belong to different social calsses, religions, and parts of the world. And just because they could fit into one category doesn't mean that they can't also fit into another. I think this is important to keep in mind when we look at people and begin to make generalizations about them.
I agree with what everyone has said so far about how we shouldn't be required to fill out the boxes. Like we read these are generalizations and one box does not tell you everything about the person. Since the colleges seem interested in where we cam from and who we are, I agree and think that they should provide a space so that people who want to can fill out anything they'd like.
I think many people go through this same experience. Checking a box about ethnicity seems simple to most, but can be a challenge for others, like Anthony. There are many different backgrounds and it is not easy to check off this box if you do not belong to only one group. I also understand that it can challenge one’s identity. Knowing who you are does not always have to follow the general guidelines of these boxes; there are more to people than what are represented. I have never been in this situation and haven’t even thought about it until now. It is interesting to read that such a little thing as checking off a box has this big of an impact on individuals and can lead to the questioning of one’s identity.
I agree with Sarah Connors, I have never experienced something like that before that has been deep enough to have me question my identity. There are basic stereotypes and generalizations from society that are not always true. Everyone should fit in and not feel like they have to act or look a certain way just to be accepted by society. People are who they are for a reason and nobody should be placed in a category based on looks.
I actually can relate to this story quite well. My father is a white catholic with strong irish and english backgrounds while my mother is 100% Turkish and is a muslim. People would never think that I am half Turkish based on my white skin and my voice. I have no accent, while my mother does. I honestly have no clue what my religion is, because my parents never forced me to think a certain way. They always wanted my thoughts and religion to be open, which doesn't really help me in a way. When people learn that my mom is muslim, their ignorant minds immediately think of an "Arab" terrorist. This really irritates me. People need to learn how to get to know people on the inside, and not just judge them based on what the color of their skin or religion is.
I agree with everyone. We should not have to check little boxes. There should be a few lines after the question asked so you can explain to the fullest, and not have to pick one thing.
I think "Little Boxes" is about how a person's identity is more than what categories he/she fits into. In the story, Anthony describes how he was often confused with what boxes he had to check on forms. He explains his complicated cultural background but even if he could write all that on the form it still would not describe who he is, only who he appears to be. The important message of "Little Boxes" is that each human being is unique and we should never assume who they are based on a category they fit in
Like what most people have said, I agree that people should not have to check boxes to describe their race/ethnicity. However, I disagree that there should be some space to describe it yourself. I think that you should never have to bring up the issue of race/ethnicity on a form because it only increases racial stereotyping and categorizing.
I can't relate with Anthony or share his feelings but I can sympathize for him. I am sure there many people in America who can empathize with Anthony but I am not one of them. I think its a very unfortunate situation for him because nobody should feel as though they don't fit in with the "majority" of society. I believe that just because somebody is black, asian, indian, or whatever race they may be, that doesn't make them a "minority" ...when it comes to numbers and quantity, they are a minority because there are more white people than latino people and black people and asian people in USA, but physically they should not be looked down on by white people in America as a minority.
To me, “Little Boxes” shows the big picture of how unreasonable it is for us to have to place ourselves in one single group. Why should a person’s race/ethnicity coincide with their identity? For Anthony, he belonged to so many groups that he didn’t know which to choose. He placed himself in the “Hispanic” group because he identified with it the most by growing up in a Puerto Rican neighborhood. This proves that despite the other cultures he is a part of, he identifies with the one he feels most comfortable with.
An analogy I’d like to make (that is unrelated to race), is to different groups in high school. If someone who did multiple activities were given a survey where they had to indicate one “group” they fit into the most, it would present a similar situation. For example, if the person has to identify as someone who does sports or is in the orchestra, choosing only one to identify with is hard, because doing so would be neglecting a certain aspect of their life.
My main point is that checking off a little box to establish one’s identity in a single word is silly, and the difference of being placed in one group or another should not be indicated by that clean-cut action.
I most definitely agree with Greg that race and ethnicity should not be brought up on a form or survey because it increases stereotyping and categorizing. I also think it just makes people feel inadequate because they know most people around them are checking off the "white" box. Some may feel unique where as others may feel like it brings up the issue of stereotyping which Greg is correct about in my opinion
Greg, you bring up a really good point. I think they should do away with any options, because there is no need for race/ethnicity to be brought up; It only opens up more options for discrimination. Like I said before, each person has different parts to their identity, therefore they can’t be placed into a single box.
As many others have said, I don’t believe that one should have to check a box indicating their ethnicity. Along with this, many people have mentioned the idea that lines should be provided in order for people to describe their own ethnicity. This may be a better option, but depending on what the person is indicating this for, I feel they shouldn’t have to mention their ethnicity at all. This in itself only leads to more chance for discrimination. Why must a person’s ethnicity be known if we are all equal as people?
I actually really enjoyed reading this essay because it’s a topic that I have thought of before, but have never actually discussed. I had never realized how much of an issue these simple little boxes could be to a person. Along with this, I’ve never really understood the reasons for these boxes because I honestly feel like checking the word “white” doesn’t really tell anything about who I am. It rather places stereotypes on me that may not be valid at all. It is frustrating to me that this is such an issue, because no matter what ethnic background a person may hold, they face stereotypes all the time. I wonder if this issue will ever lessen, and if ethnic stereotypes will ever be invalid. It was overall interesting seeing this idea from a person with an entirely different ethnic background than me, as I could never understand his situation, I can sympathize with where he’s coming from.
I found the article very interesting because it brought up a point about society that I think is very important. Anthony had said that he is from a very diverse cultural background and that when he is filling out applications or forms, there is never really an opportunity to express who he truly is/where he comes from. The forms only give a few very general options to choose from, such as those involving the category of race. Some have to sette on an option that they are not comfortable with, in that it does not fit who they are. Because they don't give people the option to express themselves fully, I think this says something about society and how it groups people together off of one particular judgement, rather than knowing exactly who someone is. This very vague and general judgement can affect how people see someone and treat them s well. I think the "little boxes" are an example of the judgemental society that we live in today.
I agree with what Michayla said. I think it is very unreasonable for society to make someone define themselves with only one word or let alone have to choose from a limited list of options. People have branched out a lot more in that they come from different places and do diffrent things that wouldn't be classified with a single world. I really liked the analogy with the high school bcecause I think it fits perfectly to what this idea is all about. Students today aren't so black and white, in that they can be stereotyped into a specific clique. People have branched out and do different things, which would make it harder for one to describe themselves in high school with one word.
In Japan, where I am "normal" and ostensibly recognized as part of the vast majority, I didn't really face Wright's problem, much the way Caucasians tend not to in the States. Here, and even back in California, however, there was always the issue of who I was based upon the color of my skin, or the shape of my eyes; and few ever get my ethnicity correct on the first try ("Chinese? Vietnamese? Taiwanese? Malaysian?...Japanese?") Apparently, I'm also some ninja-mech-pilot-calculator-cyborg hybrid too. It can get rather frustrating when I tell people I do some of those things but it isn't representative of the people as a whole--even worse is when, even jokingly, some assumptions are made of some of my physical proportions (no need to elaborate further). I am not completely guiltless, however; while it is very easy to say "Oh, but you shouldn't categorize somebody" we all do that almost unconsciously every day. Whether it's by political party, or style of dress--"Libtards can go kill themselves" "Ha, look at that hipster faggot, listening to that music we 'probably haven't heard of'"--we do tend to generalize an awful lot. We don't have the time, or resources, or motivation to look further into the minute details of people; we don't have the means to go beyond the borders of our hectic life. "Identify thine competition to make them easier to eliminate" is part of the capitalist mantra so integrated within our societies, and quick recognition is key. Problem is, it's hard to stay human when operating in such a machine-like manner, and it becomes especially true the higher up you go (hence the idiom of selling the soul for riches). Quite honestly, balancing between the two is nigh impossible in the world we have created, where people become assets and faces of the company so the company can feed the people; the little boxes shouldn't be there in the first place, but the individual submits to the masses, and so forth. There is a sort of irony in which we want each other to be individuals but at the same time "fit in" and find a form of commonality between others--be individuals together, per se. We shouldn't be limited to the boxes of others...but we want some of the others to fit into our box that we place ourselves in. It's a confusing thing.
I'm ambivalent as to whether the "little boxes" should be eliminated (in partial disagreement with the majority view), since there are many who actively use that category as a badge of honor; the line between use and abuse is blurry at best. It would be my wish that such labels are no longer associated with the connotations some seem to think they have, especially when said connotation results in unnecessarily increased pressure on the person affected. Do we use the boxes to oppress others? Or do we use it as a foundation upon which are beliefs are built and maintained?
There are, after all, quite a few who say "As a man/woman/American/ect. I have a duty..." How one defines oneself according to their "boxes" is up to them--and we shouldn't make that choice for them, yes. But in the same vein, if one wants to use said boxes for themselves, then I say they should be free to.
I really liked this article, and I agree with Anthony Wright's position about little boxes. Like Anthony, I come from a very diverse background and do not like when I have to select white on a piece of paper, because I am not given all the options I need. I come from a Persian father and a Irish, Swedish, English, and Scottish mother. Further more, I have some family from Argentina. I am not given the chance to check all that apply, because each term is too vague. I also don't think it gives anybody the opportunity to share a complete story about ourselves; it merely categorizes us into groups. When talking in class, I disagreed with everything that Keith Leslie said. I agree with Miranda Sidman about the minority vs. majority topic.
I agree a lot with what Michayla had to say. I am involved with many different things both in and outside the highschool, that by choosing one e box, it limits me to what I can explain about myself. To further her point, many colleges look for a well-rounded student. This is in conflict with the little boxes, because it does not allow for great diversity, it in turn limits the student. However, we are presented with said little boxes when filling out applications.
I think that people should not have to check off little boxes to describe your race and ethnicity; because of this I myself do not check any “little boxes” on forms. I think it is completely wrong to stereotype people based on ethnicity. I think that our society is corrupt in the sense that if you belong to one race you can receive benefits for it. For example I don’t think just because you are Native American you should be able to go to some colleges for free, but I also don’t believe because you are black you should be stereotyped as dangerous. I myself am 100% Irish so unlike others I don’t think I can relate to the confusion about not knowing how to describe yourself in just a few little boxes on paper. Recently while applying for the SAT’s I had to summit a photo of myself that will be on my actual testing sheet. When I did this I was completely shocked. I get that you need some way of proving that you are actually who you say you are, but I think there are other ways of doing this. I think that, that can open so many more doors to stereotyping.
I completely agree with Greg little boxes should not define who you are as a person. They’re many more things that build up a person and that you should never assume anything just because of someone’s background. Everyone has a story and that’s why I think it is so ridiculous that little boxes even exist. Your race does not define you, your character does.
I have not experienced anything that the main character, Anthony, in the “Little Boxes” has experienced. However, I understand how that could make someone feel about checking off the little boxes. There are many stereotypes today here in America. Stereotyping is disrespectful, but it’s not like people are going to stop stereotyping certain groups of ethnicities. Just because other people say that it’s not okay for others to say something so disrespectful doesn’t mean that the stereotyping will not continue.
I agree with what Jamie had to say about “The Little Boxes”. I am also a white male who can respect what Anthony has to say. I may not agree with it because I am not often stereotyped but you have to respect what other have to say about certain topics.
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