Tuesday, October 2, 2012

PERIOD 7 - 12 ANGRY MEN

Over the past two days you have watched the film “12 Angry Men.” Please share with the class what you think is the most important message of the film.




48 comments:

Nancy Morales Gomez said...

I wasn't here for this assignment

Molly Burke said...

Although I didn't watch the movie in class this year, based on when I watched it Sophomore year, I would say the most important message of the film is to not judge someone else until you have all of the evidence surrounding their circumstance.

Saurabh Verma said...

I think the most important message of the film is the saying, "Don't judge a book by its cover." While only a few jurors spoke out about it, I thought that almost every person in the room contained some form of prejudice-like thought it in their decision. Another thing that I recognized in the film was that some people had no real opinion and instead switched sides to stay with the majority of the people. Lastly, only one person stood up against the crowd because he had a reasonable doubt. Not only did he convince everyone by providing evidence, he also showed them that sometimes even the most obvious evidence isn't isn't as "true" as it seems.

Saurabh Verma said...

I agree with Molly that one should not judge someone until they have all evidence as sometimes, your judgment of someone else without evidence can make an innocent person suffer.

Ben Fowle said...

The important messages that are conveyed in 12 Angry Men is not to come to an early conclusion, like most of the men did in the beginning, base a conclusion based on the facts rather than a prejudice, and to own your opinion not just follow the majority.

Ben Fowle said...

In response to Molly's post...

I definitely agree that all evidence must be revealed before coming to a conclusion. This is amplified in the defendant's case, because a premature guilty verdict could cause the ending of a man's life.

Tony Cibelli said...

I do agree that a message here is don’t judge a book by its cover or do not make assumptions until you have all the evidence, but I think the most important message is don’t give up on what you believe in even if you’re going against the majority or if its everyone vs. you. I think this because if Mr. Davis had given in, he would have let a kid be killed because he gave up what he believed in because people thought he was wrong. But because he fought for what he thought was right he changed others minds because they just made assumptions and saved that kids life.

Tony Cibelli said...

Although I just said the most important message was don’t stop believing in what you think is right even if you are the only one, but like Molly and Ben said not making decisions too early is also a message here because it may just lead to a huge mistake, like taking some one’s life.

McKayla Palladino said...

I think the most important message throughout the whole movie was to not back down from what you believe in. If Mr. Davis hadn't said anything, everyone would have convicted the boy as guilty, when in reality that may not have been the case. I agree with Ben. Had Mr. Davis not said anything, the conclusion would have been made in just a couple of minutes. The determination of whether someone lives or dies should not be based on prejudices.

Sean Vaccaro said...

I think the message here is to always have your own opinion, and reasons to defend it, Don't just have an opinion for the sake of having one, or not have one at all, because in the worst of all possible scenarios your opinion could determine whether someone is put to death or not.

Sean Vaccaro said...

I also agree with Molly in that another important message of the film is to not judge someone without out any evidence to do so. As the saying goes "Don't judge a book by its cover."

Sarah Masters said...

I think that the most important message from the film is that one person’s opinion can change what others think, as long as they share it. If Mr. Davis had gone with the majority during the original vote, the boy would have been killed without even a discussion from the jurors. Because he spoke up and told everyone that he wasn’t 100% certain, he was able to get the other men to see the situation from another point of view.

Sarah Masters said...

I think that Ben’s point about not judging someone right away is good. The film showed that some of the jurors had prejudice, and they let that get in the way of their decision. By eliminating that prejudice and taking the time to look at the case, the boy’s trial was fairer than when prejudice was involved in making their verdict.

Alyssa Los said...


The movie taught me the lesson to really think for yourself and don’t just go with popular belief. If Mr. Davis didn’t stand up for his belief than the kid would have ultimately died for something he didn’t even commit. We must learn to base our opinions off of facts, not prejudices or going with the majority of opinions.

Alyssa Los said...

I agree with Saurabh Verma’s post when he said that most of the jury members just seemed to join the bandwagon because other people thought it was the right decision, even when it came to both sides of the debate, whether the kid was guilty or not.

Jake Sanders said...

I think the most important message portrayed in "12 Angry Men" was to not judge a book by its cover. I felt that every judge except the original one to stand out from the crowd had some form of prejudice or apathy for the case. Decisions should not be made based on prejudice; it should be evidence-based and can be backed up.

Mia Natale said...

I think that the most important message conveyed in the movie is to think independently from others. All too often we let ourselves be influenced by others' opinions and don't stand up for what we believe in. I agree with McKayla in that prejudices often affect our behaviors and perceptions of others.

Jake Sanders said...

I agree with Alyssa when she said that we should base our opinions off of facts, not by being prejudice or going with the majority vote.

olivia montgomery said...

This film was interesting it taught me that you should not give up on what you believe in and too keep fighting. Like in the film the vote was 11 to 1 and he was all alone but he never gave up eventually it worked out the way he wanted. This happens today alot and it is important to stay with what you believe.

olivia montgomery said...

I agree with Mia that the films main message was that we should think independently and that we are all influenced by the people around us.

Jason Silva said...

I think the most important message of the movie is to not judge people if you don’t really know what they are about. In the movie almost all of the men had a prejudice towards kids from the slums. They thought that all people from the slums were low lives and killers. Many people in society judge people based on how they look or where they are from. Just because someone comes from the slums does not make them a bad person. People make judgments about people all the time. It just isn’t right. It doesn’t allow that person to really prove themselves. People may not give a kid from the slums a chance just because the kid is from the slums.

Jason Silva said...

I agree with saurabh because it’s true that they had prejudice towards people from the slums. That really effected how they all voted.

Karli Gavin said...

I think that the most important message of this film is to be your own person. In terms of thinking independently of others and fight for what you think is right. Mr. Davis is a great example of this, if it wasn’t for him sticking up for what he believed was right, a boy would have been punished for a crime he didn’t commit. People are always so quick to base their decision on as to what society would think it, even if it means going against what they are thinking. It is the fear of being different that keeps most people from speaking up.

Doug Casey said...

After watching this film, I think that the most important message is to make vital decisions mainly internally, instead of externally. This means that as people we should carry out a course of action by what we ourselves think and feel, and not be swayed by what other people act like. Had this not happened in the jury room, then it's pretty much certain that the boy would have been found as guilty of the murder.

Anonymous said...

I side with Olivia, in terms that it was nice to see the person who initially voted that the boy was innocent standing his ground against the 11 others who thought the boy was guilty. This action by the man would not be a likely scenario in the real world, but should be thought of as the "right" one in this case.

Jamie Cerny said...

Something important to notice in this film is that there was a lot of circumstantial evidence against the boy, and that is usually enough to convict someone. I think it would have been reasonable to reach a guilty verdict, so I don't think the initial guilty votes were based on prejudice. I do think, though, that the initial unwillingness of the jurors to consider other options or give the boy the benefit of the doubt came from their prejudice that his background indicated he would be the type of boy to murder. So I think the message is that people equally deserve the benefit of the doubt, or at least a chance to be defended.

I agree with Sean in that it is important to express your opinion regardless of how many dissenting opinions there are. There is always the possibility that you noticed something others did not, and it is important that everyone gets to hear about it.

Doug Casey said...

I side with Olivia, in terms that it was nice to see the person who initially voted that the boy was innocent standing his ground against the 11 others who thought the boy was guilty. This action by the man would not be a likely scenario in the real world, but should be thought of as the "right" one in this case.

Karli Gavin said...

I agree with Alyssa and Jake when they said we should base our opinions off of acts, not by being prejudice or going with the majority vote. But I also believe that not everything should be completely based off of facts because as we saws in the movie facts can be misleading.

Molly Burke said...

I agree with Ben that making early conclusions is not the right thing to do as it leaves more space for error in judgement, that can be potentially harmful to another person, like in the court case situation.

Olyvia Kane said...

I was absent for the verdict of the film, but what i took from it was that it is important not to judge someone until you have gathered all the evidence surrounding their situation/circumstance.

Olyvia Kane said...

I agree with Mia that an important message from the film was to think as an individual. This was demonstrated in the film by juror #8 who stuck with his own opinion of the case, and in the end was able to prove his point. The other men made their decisions based on prejudice and if it had not been for juror #8, the boy would be killed based on faulty evidence.

Amy Lightbody said...

I think the most important message from the film is to always go by the facts. It is too easy to make assumptions and wrong convictions due to prejustice views but it is not fair. If you do not know the facts you cannot be certain of anything.

Amy Lightbody said...

I agree with Mia in that individuals are often influenced by others. When everyone is submissive to the opinions and decisions of select people, that is when democracy is lost and power of groups is gained. It is critical to make choices based off your interpretation of the facts, not what others want you to say or do.

Kurtis Sciba said...

I feel that there are different important messages, like don't judge a book by the cover, or don't be too quick to act upon something. But i would say the most important message is to always stay strong to what you believe and don't give up on what you believe even if you are against the majority. Just like Mr. Davis or Juror #8, he stayed with his argument and belief that the boy was not guilty and through the entire film he stuck with what he believed in. He never changed his mind and didn't have second thoughts about his original thought, even though he was out-numbered in the beginning by 11-1. And he stuck with his belief and ended up convincing all of the other 11 men to believe that the boy was not guilty

Kurtis Sciba said...

I agree with Mia, and the fact that just because our views or beliefs are different from someone else, we shouldn't be tempted to change our beliefs because of another person. So we should not let our views/beliefs depend on another persons or be influenced by someone else.

Kurtis Sciba said...

I agree with Mia, and the fact that just because our views or beliefs are different from someone else, we shouldn't be tempted to change our beliefs because of another person. So we should not let our views/beliefs depend on another persons or be influenced by someone else.

Unknown said...

I think the most important message of the “12 Angry Men” is to not judge people based on your preconceived notions about them, their race, and or their background but to listen to their story and the facts that you see. Once you have listened to the situation and had time to think it over, that is when you are fit to make a decision about someone or something. Without all of the evidence you will only come to false conclusions.

I agree with Mia that thinking on your own / as an individual is another important message of “12 Angry Men”. I think this is truly depicted when one of the jurors asked another juror why he was switching his vote and that it was not acceptable just to switch his vote because he wanted to go home and be done with the case.

Andrew Pickering said...

12 Angry Men was a movie that showed how 11 men were completely prejudice against one person being accused of a murder just because he was not white. This movie really showed how one person can make a difference. Mr. Davis stood up for what he believed and was able to provide a great argument to 11 people to find reasons why the defendant was not guilty. Seems that most people will just jump to conclusions with out taking the time to analyze what happened or just judge someone by their looks.

Andrew Pickering said...

I agree with what Kurtis said, one of the most important thing to do is to do what you believe. It really shows who you are as a person. One person explained what he believed and was able to convice 11 men that there was reasonable doubt.

Ryan O'Neil said...

I believe that “12 Angry Men” is a phenomenal example of standing up for what you believe in, regardless of whether or not your beliefs are popular. This confidence was shown by Mr. Davis from the very beginning of the film. I think another theme of the film is to look beyond the surface and not simply glance over the facts presented, but rather take time to really analyze them. All of the members of the jury, except Mr. Davis, began the film in this manner; they simply took everything at face value. In doing this they almost unjustly accused a boy of something he may not have done. I think the film presents the idea that doing what you think is right and standing by that opinion can lead to good things, for example, the boy was not sent to the electric chair because Mr. Davis couldn’t justify ignorance for the life of another human being.

Ryan O'Neil said...

I agree with just about everyone on the fact that you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover and that standing up for what you believe in is always the right thing to do even if there are other people trying to tell you that youre wrong.

Sarah Fontaine said...

12 angry men is a great example of how one person can base their decisions on things like bias and two that one person can change make a difference. In this movie there were many jurors who voted not guilty just because the man wasn't white. It's sad but people still act this way today. Also juror number 8 was the only one who voted not guilty at first, but he took the time to explain how he felt and what he believed in. In the end he even convinced all of the jurors to vote not guilty as well. Like Ryan I also agree with what everyone else said about not making decisions based on someone's position.

Michelle Sa said...

I think the most important message of this movie was to show that when you feel passionate about an issue you should stand up for it, even if people are against you. You will have facts and emotion behind it. This was shown by Mr.Davis when he at the begining of the movie was the only man on the jury who thought that the boy could possibly be innocent. When he had to stand up against all other eleven men he had passion and facts to back himself up. This was differen than when the last man was against everyone who thought that he was not guilty. He crumbled quickly at the end when he realized he hadn't based it on anything except a past experience he had had.

Michelle Sa said...

In response to Mia..

I agree completely! That was what I thought was the most important message as well.

John Stanton said...

The most important message of the film is when you are in a situation that could decide a man’s life, you cannot use personal bias to determine the outcome. You must use facts and be reasonable with the situation. Being calm and making your points loud and clear and backing them up with eventually allow the other people to agree with you. The men who just kept saying he was guilty with no reason were being very prejudice. When they were asked for their reasoning they just said, “The old man saw him running!” That is why the people who weren’t using prejudice and were listening and being reasonable were able to get the case, in what they found and what they thought, right.

I agree with Ben that you can’t come to an early conclusion with something like this. You must go in depth and really analyze the case rather than coming up with false assumptions.

Natalie Bely said...

I feel as though three important messages were portrayed through this movie. The first one that is the most obvious message that shows that someone can judge a book by its cover all they want but when it comes down to the facts and the evidence, the judgment formed original could be nothing but the truth. The second lesson taught by the film is that one person CAN change the opinion of a crowd even if they are standing alone. The third lesson that was revealed by this film is that there can be serious consequences if you make decisions based on the majority rule, even though you feel different or indifferent.

James Harrold Period 7 said...

I was out sick for the blog assignment, but I was present for the class days i which we watched the movie.

I feel as though this movie portrays many important messages about how a society can be affected by predjudice. It displays how the actions of a single individual can change the minds of the majority, even when the action of doing so is difficult. This movie portrays the societarial differences of people, how one group can be blinded to the truth by internal and unfounded hate, while another group can be clear minded and understand that to hate someone for their color, religion, belief, or Gender is a unfair and morally wrong thing to do to any human being.

James Harrold P.7 said...

In response to Ryan's comment, I agree completely with what he said. I also liked how he put his thoughts into terms which were both easy to understand, and could be applied to the general public's life.