Monday, February 6, 2012

PERIOD 3 - LITTLE BOXES

Today you read the story "Little Boxes" in class. Please share your thoughts about the story and the class discussion that followed in a reflective post. Make at least one comment about another student's post.  Mr. Gallagher





42 comments:

Jonathan Soto said...

In the story "Little Boxes" I feel like it's completely unnecessary to categorize someone based on a general enthic term. The term "Hispanic" can be so vague in terms of what kind of hispanic. For instance, I'm Puerto Rican so I somewhat take the term "Hispanic" as somewhat offensive because it is way too general to categorize a wide variety of people of the spanish decent.

Rachel Siegal said...

In my group today we talked alot about how it is important as to how you define yourself. I thought it seemd that the boy was having trouble with his 'little boxes' for two reasons. First, the boxes were too restricting; you can't define one person by one box. Second, maybe he wasn't sure who he was. To me, he didn't seem comfortable with himself.

In response to what Jonathon said, I agree that it can be offensive to describe someone as one box. By describing someone with one general, broad category, you assume that they match everyone else in the category, and that's not true. You need to treat each person as an individual.

Olivia Tortolini said...

In the essay "Little Boxes" I can totally understand where Anthony is coming from. I respect his opinion and appreciate his feelings on the matter. People should not be stereotyped due to their race or religious background, and every individual deserves as equal of a chance as everyone else. In my opinion, though, I don't believe that those "Little Boxes" are in any way trying to discriminate against different ethnicities. They are just trying to get a general sense as to who you are and how you are unique and different from every other person. But as stated before, I do respect those who find it offensive and can see where they are coming from, yet I believe they should not take it so personally.

Olivia Tortolini said...

In response to Rachel's comment, I totally agree that one little box cannot match every individual with a category. Everyone is their own person and they deserve to be noticed that way.

Vanessa Clemons said...

I think that the story "Little Boxes" is a good representation of how a lot of people feel about their ethnicity. Like the boy in the story, a lot of people have trouble defining themselves by one box, especially since there are so few options to choose from. I think that a lot of people have a hard time knowing which box to check off partially because more than one box might apply to them, but also because they are unsure of their true identity.

I agree with what Rachel said. I think that the boy was struggling so much to choose a box because the options were limited and he wasn't comfortable with himself.

Tim Jerome said...

Reading this story "Little Boxes" made me think a lot about ethnicity. Whenever I fill out an application I always see them out and ask myself why it matters that much. It truly doesn't matter what ethnicity a person is, a person is a person and that is all that ever matters. I am 25% Mexican from my Grandma as well as multiple European ethnicities. Simply said, a person is a person and one checked box shouldn't make them any different than another person.

Connor Whamond said...

In the story Little Boxes I felt like it that it is truly unessacary to be braud about who you are. Also there should be more options when chosing ethnicity because you are who you are and not just in a vague group.

Connor Whamond said...

I agree with jonathan's comment and that the genaral ethnic terms are to vague.

Shaina Lariviere said...

While I was reading “little Boxes”, I came across a theory. My theory was what if people stopped caring about being categorized. Checking a box doesn’t determine what you are, it’s just allows the process that you filling out to go a lot faster. When in the first story it said he was having trouble checking off his ethnicity, putting myself into that position, I have no trouble clicking other, because I am in fact many other things, Italian, African-American, Caucasian, Irish, and Portuguese. Just imagine how long it would take to fill anything out, how much paper it would take just to print out an application. I’m not saying it’s not right to allow people to fill out all of their information. I’m saying that it’s not all necessary. There’s a time and a place to spill your heart out but not on a piece of paper.
Once again we come to the conversation of categories. Why should anyone feel inferior to the labeling of being a part of a category. We can’t change how people look upon us, so why care what they have to say about us. I love the way I am and pay absolutely no attention to what anyone has to say to me, unless its positive. If people just looked at categories’ as just another part of society maybe we could just agree to disagree. I have no problem of being a part of a category. It’s just one of those thing we can’t control.

shaina agreeing with olivia said...

I agree with Olivia, i know people aren't placing those boxes there to discriminate, there there for a shorter process. People take everything seriously. can't you just fill it out and not take it so personally i have no problem filling out other. Stop being offended by every little thing that makes us unique. no one has time to read every little thing that makes us human.

Tim Jerome said...

I agree with Connor Whamond that there should be no general "hispanic." You should feel free to say exactly who you are.

Matt Demers said...

In the story "Little Boxes" I thought the title captured the point of the story very well. Anthony E. Wright doesn't believe that he can accurately describe who he is checking of these little boxes with very general answers. I personally think that however it is important to keep your true identity and show the world who you truly are as a person it is very hard to be that specific about people on such a large scale. They're are many terms including Latino, Hispanic, Asian, and others. If we try to be more specific about who the person came from and what their religion is then one, there will be an absurd amount of words to describe someones background that it would get confusing, and two we would also focus on this too much and less on who they are as an actual person making it more difficult to really get to know someone.

Matt Demers said...

I agree with what Tim said. Its not about where your are from it is about who you are as a person.

Jeremy Lurier said...

The story "Little Boxes" made me realize how close-minded I am when thinking of individuals and their ethnicities. The issue the author and many other people around the world face when forced to check an ethnicity box that describes them on a questionnaire is unfair. For me this question is a breeze; I quickly read over it and check the "White" box. I never considered the fact that an individual can be White, Native American, and African-American all in one. Instead of little boxes, I think questionnaires should provide a small writing section, which would allow the individual to actually describe them self.

Ryan Crowe said...

In the essay "Little Boxes" I agree with Anthony on not liking racial stereotypes and respecting what an individual actually is and not judging him/her for what they are assumed to be. Although in contrast I don't appreciate the drama attributed to racial stereotypes and how offended people get over survey boxes. I have an understanding of it, but having vague boxes dedicated to categorizing you doesn't ruin your life.

Jeremy Lurier said...

I strongly agree with Matt's idea of how meaningful and important it is to keep one's identity cannot be stressed enough. Overall, checking a box barely even touches upon one's true identity.

Ryan Crowe said...

I agree with Jeremy in stating the realisation of how close minded I can sometimes be with racial stereotypes.

Kim Woodcock said...

I completely agree to what Anthony is saying because I don't think people should be categorized by one box. That limits so many options and generalizes people into only a few categories. This isn't always fair, because it could always stereotype people in some sort of way that's not intended.
Commenting on Jonathan's post, he brings up a great connection to his life that shows how important these boxes can offend or affect people. He also shows how much everybody's identities can distinguish them from others.

Ali Strand said...

While I couldn’t really relate to the story “Little Boxes” I can agree to the fact that identities should not be generalized by grouping people into broad categories. By generalizing people you take away their identity and replace it with something broad and easy to label. You could see someone walking down the street that looks like he or she is certain race however in reality, he or she can be a million different things.

Ali Strand said...

I agree with Jonathan. There are so many people that label people from Latin America as "Spanish." However the only "Spanish" people there are, are those that are from Spain. Each country has its own culture and own identity. Just because these countries have a similar language does not mean that the people from there are similar in any way.

Sadie Smith said...

After reading the story "Little Boxes", I agreed with Wright. It was interesting to see the point of view of someone with many ethnic backgrounds and I understood how checking a little box could be seen as limiting or in some cases degrading. However, I dont think these boxes were designed to be degrading and cover every detail of a person's life, but more to get the general idea about a person.

Sadie Smith said...

I agree with Shaina. Her comment made me realize that it is important to love yourself for who you are and not worry about what others think of you. You should be proud of yourself no matter what. I'm glad she pointed this point of view out.

Jodie Shrier said...

Prior to reading "Little Boxes", I never realized how important people considered their ethnicity to be (on a piece of paper). But after reading it I remember one of my teachers telling me to always be proud of whatever I put my name on. This thought came back when I thought about the reading, because people take pride everything they put their name on. I aws always told to never put my name on work that I was not proud of doing. And puting a name on an application is the same thing as submitting an essay.

Jodie Shrier said...

In response to what Olivia said, I agree that these boxes were not created to discrinate against people or stereotype you. They are there for the purpose of getting to know you on a broad level.

Max Pabon-Young said...

Comming from someone who Is biracial, I found the "lIttle boxes" essay to be rather childish and If nothIng else outdated. Yes, there are certain documents that Include a portion specifically asking that the reader disclose their race. That said, why is this a problem? Should we not be proud of our races? perhaps It's just me but I thoroughly enjoy comming from African-American ancestry and my Puerto Rican ancestry; best of both worlds. Moreover, I have more than one culture to be apart of. I feel not the need to assimilate with one versus the other. In my oppinion I feel neglecting a part of one's life leads to many terrible reprocutions, ergo Anthony Hopkins via "The Human Stain".

Alison Bracey said...

After reading the story “Little Boxes” I understand how Anthony was confused and upset over selecting which box best describes his identity. One little box cannot correctly identify people, and it is not right to generalize groups of people based on these boxes. I don’t think the boxes are meant to offend people though, they are there to simply to gain some information on a person. I think defining someone’s identity goes far beyond these little boxes that people check off, and people should not let a simple piece of paper define who they are as a person.

I agree with Shaina about people being proud about where they come from, and what their backgrounds are. People should not get so worked up about these boxes, because checking a box doesn’t determine who you are. They should be proud to check off the other box, because it shows that they are unique and proud of who they are.

Max Pabon-Young said...

I agree with Shaina in the sense that selecting "other" on a form/legal document doesn't necessarily need to be an insult towards the reader. If nothing else it could be seen as a means of conserving the precious time of said reader.

Taylor Monahan said...

I think that Anthony makes a good point about how he doesn’t know which box to fill in. Although he makes a good point, he also should never contradict himself about who he is. He has every right to check any box he wants and however many he wants. I feel that he does not know who he really is and is relying on the boxes to tell him. Maybe by checking the boxes, it will show him it’s okay to be a mix of different ethnicities. Or maybe the boxes will make him feel limited. It could really go either way.

Taylor Monahan said...

I agree with Jeremy Lurier. "Little Boxes" really does make you realize how closed minded we can truely be.

Veda Awasthi said...

I think that the reason it was so difficult for Anthony to identify himself as one "box" is because he himself was unsure about his true identity and therefore could not choose which ethnicity he felt he belonged to. Another concept that I think is being shown through this story is that your ethnicity shouldn't define who you are as a person because there are many different aspects that make up who a person truly is.


In response to Olivia's comment, I agree that I understand how Anthony feels but people shouldn't take it so personally because in some situations I think trying to figure the ethnicity of a person can be helpful to understand where they come from.

Ben Mugi said...

In the story "little Boxes" i understand where Anthony Wright's coming from. I can understand how limited he is to describe his ethnicity. I believe the people who created that section of an application didn't really think it through, because not everyone can be categorized by one specific ethnic group. Especially now-a-days people are more bi-racial than ever so it makes it even that much harder.

I agree with Jonathan that, that its completely unnecessary to categorize someone based on a general ethnic term

Syd DeArmond said...

I feel that it is horrible that anyone would categorize by little boxes. I don't even understand the point of it anyways. Is it so the people that made test can be notified when someone of a different ethnicity takes their test? The whole idea is unreasonable to begin with. People backgrounds are so complex it is impossible to say that one person has to fully fit the critera of a little box.

Syd DeArmond said...

I agree with Jonathan comment. The terms "Hispanic" "Asian" are very broad terms. Everyone is proud of where they come from. Why should they have to give that up and represent something that is not even close to what they are. I understand people need statistics, but they are going have to fine a better of way of getting them.

Mary Schmitt said...

I think that, though its wrong to try to categorize someone based on such vague term as black, white, Hispanic, or Asian, its purpose is just to get a cursory look. My dad told a joke to me today that listed listed about 100 different nationalities, and it made me think of this story, and how inconvenient it would be if they had a box for every nationality. I also think that it should be more about how you catagorize yourself, and less important how you technicallly should be catagorized, because al that matters is how you see yourself.

I agree with Tim that it shouldn't even matter what ethnicity you are in most situations, everyone is a person the same, and I don't think people should treat anyone any differently if they are mixed race or not. They are still a person just the same

Colleen Mulcahy said...

I think that the article 'Little Boxes' was an interesting take on the "little boxes" we all check at some point in our lives. Trying to identify ourselves in one word or term can be a very difficult thing at times. Some people are extreamly diverse in their cultures, ethnicities, and religions. For myself, I usually just check the 'caucasion' box so I had never thought of how difficult it could be to have to pick one adjective when many apply. The article helped to put it into perspective. The author wrote that he tries to go into detail about his identity when the chance comes, I think that this is an intelligent way to go about things. You cant always put yourself into one box.

Colleen Mulcahy said...

As far as what Rachel said... our group did have a really great discussion about about defining yourself. We also had a very diverse group which made the discussion a lot more interesting and i really do agree with her comments about why the author was having trouble choosing a box.

Julie Spiegel said...

In the reading "little boxes" I was torn between how I felt about the issue of forcing someone to categorize themselves into one small box. I took some time to think about it and realized that these boxes are usually on a job application with many other things describing someone's life. Someone's ethnicity is just one small part of their life and who they are. Most employers look at their past jobs and credentials when selecting someone, not this box. This box is usually used for statistics. On the other hand some people feel as though this box could sway a persons thoughts about them, which it could. If these little boxes are used to actually know someone's race and make an opinion of them based on their race then I completely disagree with that. I think that These boxes should be optional to check off on any document. It depends on the individuals beliefs if they think that little boxes discriminate against them or not.

Julie Spiegel said...

I agree with Shaina's comment. I think that whatever ethnicity you are you should be proud of it. That is just one aspect of who you are and someone's ethnicity doesn't make you different from anybody else. It's the other thiga you write down on that paper that really matter and how you portray yourself as a person.

Juliet Lloyd said...

I found it difficult to relate to the article we read today, but I can definitely see where the author is coming from. His family's history is clearly important to him and he doesn't like having to choose an ethnicity that doesn't completely represent him. The boy appeared confused about who he really was and seemed disgruntled about how much boxes limited him.


I agree with Olivia when she said that the boxes were not meant as an insult but were there to help those reading understand you more. It's good that the author felt so strongly about his heritage, but his feeling seemed a little strong.

Michael Fahey said...

I was absent this day.

Jacob Silverman said...

Having to catagorize yourself by checking a box feels confining. This is because there are so many different compenets of a persons history and thier family that it is almost impossible to be able to critic an entire identity

Jacob Silverman said...

** to fit an entire identity into one box. For somebody to truely know a persons identity there needs to be hours upon hours of talking and understanding between the two parties.